Site linked in docs, effbot.org, down

[JulienPalard]

BPO	43504
Nosy	@orsenthil, @roseman, @JulienPalard, @E-Paine
PRs	bpo-43504: Remove effbot urls #26308

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title = 'Site linked in docs, effbot.org, down'
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[JulienPalard]

effbot.org is down, it's currently displaying:

effbot.org on hiatus

effbot.org is taking a break. We’ll be back, in some form or another.

But docs.python.org have a few links pointing to it, git grep effbot finds 11 of them in the Doc/.

I think they should be manually reviewed one by one, checking on web archive 1 if they still contain relevant information.

For example:

[Doc/library/xml.etree.elementtree.rst](https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Doc/library/xml.etree.elementtree.rst):See http://effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm for tutorials and links to other

The given links give Python 2 examples, so I think it's OK just to remove it.

[E-Paine]

@mark, would it be at all possible for you to host the tkinter part content from Effbot on your site (as you did with the Shipman docs for bpo-37149)? The docs have been down since mid-November and there is no indication of when they'll come back up. Since tkinter does not have very good docs on docs.python.org, this is (still) a very valuable resource.

[orsenthil]

Julien, we could remove them from docs.python.org instead of pointing to archive.org.

Users will be able to find more recent examples in the internet.

[roseman]

I'd argue for removing the links altogether, given the material is very outdated and from what I recall anything that was there is better covered now by TkDocs, Shipman, or other resources.

[JulienPalard]

Reopening this issue as there's still 4 links to effbot.org in old whatsnew entries, they should point to web.archive.org.

[JulienPalard]

Closed by #92816 thanks to @slateny.