Open Community Working Meeting 2022-11-14 - 14:00 PT

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Agenda

Topic	Owner	Decision/NextSteps
Review last call's action items Area of focus and interest of JSON Schema Org	@Relequestual	Action items were reviewed Please read current-work README Focus items list
Feedback on Discussion #257	@awwright	Rolled over to next meeting
Updates to ADR, explaining new SDLC PR #1346	@jdesrosiers	Read PR #1346
Bowtie calls for contributions to the suite	@Julian	Read more here Good First Issues to tackle. Tutorial for contributers. See Tutorial
JRef and JRI merge into referencing repo	@handrews	See here and feedback from community is seeked JRef PR JRI PR

Highlights

• @Julian shared brief introduction, updates and called upon people to contribute to Bowtie Meta-Validator
• JRef and JRI merged to referencing repo and wg now seeks community feedback on the same
• Discussion on media-type overriding, explicit expectation etc.
• Updates to current-work focus of JSON Schema org were shared. The list can be seen here

Actions

• Read (if haven't already) the ADR for new SDLC PR #1346
• Gather feedback from community on JRef and JRI. Referencing Repo
• Call upon contributors to help with Bowtie
• Feedback on discussion #257. Updates rolled over to next meeting
• Add comments to specification regarding JSON Schema's use of Serialization and Deserialized use in implementations
• @jdesrosiers to create issues to discuss topics regarding referencing, href etc
• Discuss media-type

Attendees

Account
@Relequestual
@awwright
@jdesrosiers
@Julian
@gregsdennis
@jviotti
@handrews

Details

Bowtie

Bowtie is a meta-validator of the JSON Schema specification. There are various issues that need help from contributors and interested people are encouraged to take a look at Bowtie Issues. A tutorial is provided for contributers. See Tutorial

Introduction was followed by a discussion on skipped v error/fail as output from the meta-validator. Briefly put, skipped is for when there are limitations of various kind an implementation is bound by or implementer decides as to why a behavior/test is skipped. For example lua not having a clear distinction between empty array and empty object. In such cases, skipped allows to add a response providing explanation rather than outputing error which is for Bowtie to catch unexpected problems and providing an explicit trace.

For an example of skipped, click on Details of .net implementation here.

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Unknown, explicit or overriding media-type

The discussion brought up concerns about security and trust establishment (where are the boundaries for trust drawn and moved under ambit of specification ?) with respect to media-type being served (locally or remotely) and overriding causing concerns with trust establishment boundary and security in certain contexts.

A few points made were, allowing user to explicitly describe an expected media-type (by use of additional keyword ?). Another addition to the discussion was regarding media-type loaded from HTTP content-type and the dereferencing function determining media-type of the URI, whereas schema loaded any other method being allowed to assume media-type. Furthermore, JRI provides hooks for picking a point for such a decision i.e preload and serve functions and expected media-type are in JRI xref section.

Further discussion are to be had in this regard and security section might need expanding.

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Further Mentions

• JSON Schema Validator
• JSON Schema Ref Parser
• Bowtie Meta-Validator
• Bowtie Tutorial
• Test Anything Protocol
• Subunit

[handrews]

We should probably talk about JRef and JRI, as they're now merged into the referencing repo and we're ready to move into the larger discussion.

[jdesrosiers]

json-schema-org/json-schema-spec#1346

Have a look at this if you haven't yet

[awwright]

I don't have much to discuss, though I do want to collect feedback on #257

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