bibtex-actions-insert-citation vs org-cite-insert

[bdarcus]

Not sure how to handle this, but when using oc-bibtex-actions with org, one should not use bibtex-actions-insert-citation (or even bibtex-actions-insert-key), and instead use the native org-cite-insert.

Ideas I can think of:

1. don't autoload those commands at all
2. only autoload them subject to some condition; maybe a variable
3. don't touch autoload at all, but add a message when using the commands in org

[failable]

I have a large bibtex file (1500 entries)

org-cite-insert is super slow at the first time call (34s) while bibtex-actions-insert-citation is much faster (3s). I'd like to use bibtex-actions-insert-citation even with oc.

- funcall-interactively                                   20106  98%
 - org-cite-insert                                        20105  98%
  - #<compiled 0x1fe387f7ed71>                            20105  98%
   - #<compiled 0x1fe38a2fd9d5>                           20105  98%
    - org-cite-basic--complete-key                        20105  98%
     - org-cite-basic--key-completion-table               19079  93%
      - org-cite-basic--get-field                         19023  93%
       - org-cite-basic--get-entry                        19021  93%
        - org-cite-basic--parse-bibliography              18980  93%

[bdarcus]

It's slow because you're using oc-basic for the insert processor; not bibtex-actions.

[failable]

Yes, that's why I said I still prefer to use bibtex-actions-* commands in this situation. It would be nice if this awesome package can deal with the new style oc link syntax.

[bdarcus]

Yes, that's why I said I still prefer to use bibtex-actions-* commands in this situation. It would be nice if this awesome package can deal with the new style oc link syntax.

It can ;-)

https://github.com/bdarcus/bibtex-actions#configuration

Note: I may need to fix the example to include explicitly doing setq org-cite-insert-processor 'oc-bibtex-actions.

[failable]

Thanks, that works.

It would be helpful to include that in README. And I've thought (setq org-cite-insert-processor 'oc-bibtex-actions) will make bibtex-action-insert-citations to work with oc directly and now I understand I should use org-cite-insert even it's set :)

[bdarcus]

It would be helpful to include that in README.

Well, the link I posted was to the README. What more should I add; something in the first lines?

And I've thought (setq org-cite-insert-processor 'oc-bibtex-actions) will make bibtex-action-insert-citations to work with oc directly and now I understand I should use org-cite-insert even it's set :)

Yes, we basically plugin to the org-cite infrastructure, and let it take over.

That's what this issue is about, because it confuses users. Basically, when using org-cite, there's no reason for the insert commands.

[failable]

I mean the (setq org-cite-insert-processor 'oc-bibtex-actions) part would be helpful for newbies :)