Deletion of messages in encrypted (or any other) chat/room

[johnstonesnow]

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[t3chguy]

for now you can use https://github.com/xwiki-labs/matrix-stfu
Closing in favour of #5885

[t3chguy]

I closed it as it is a duplicate of #5885

[t3chguy]

You asked for

(If there any cheats/workarounds, such as deletion of my entire account, please say, as i could do that, my account is very new and i can just create another)

So I provided you with matrix-stfu

[t3chguy]

Yes, read the description of #5885:

It could be as simple as 'redact all messages from this user' for now.

[t3chguy]

Right but in a 1-1 chat everyone is a room administrator. So it does apply for a delete all my messages in your original query

[t3chguy]

You can request a GDPR erasure when deactivating your account, but like with email it will only delete your copy of your messages, other copies belong to those users/servers

[ara4n]

You have to think of Matrix as being like email rather something like Skype. If I request gdpr erasure from my mail server, i don’t expect every email i ever sent to somehow get magically deleted, nor even for my emails to suddenly disappear from the email inboxes of other users on the same server. So too for Matrix. The privacy policy as per https://matrix.org/legal tries to make this abundantly clear.

That said, we do provide a redaction button, and we could provide a bulk redaction function as per #5885 too, although it would be very prone to abuse, which is why we have not prioritised it. But based on the legal advice we’ve received it is not a prerequisite for gdpr compliance.

I think STFU is not a solution as it implies that you have control over the server. You can't do it if you're the admin of a room that's hosted on the matrix.org homeserver. I'd really like to have a bulk redaction tool, and while that's not ready I'm trying to find a way to write a JS script to run in the Chromium developer console of Riot to do it. I'm not really skilled so if anyone, even @ara4n himself wanted to lend a hand I'd really appreciate!

[t3chguy]

I think STFU is not a solution as it implies that you have control over the server.

Does it?
It just uses a username and access token just like every other matrix client, so does not require any special permissions over a server.

It just uses a username and access token just like every other matrix client, so does not require any special permissions over a server.

I've seen the README using it with a node instance so I thought it was implied that it ran in the node instance of the server. How do you use it for Matrix.org?

[t3chguy]

Synapse has no Node instance, no Matrix servers exist in Node.
Yes, matrix-stfu is written in Node.JS javascript, but it runs in any compatible Node runtime.

You specify the username in the config and the code gets the url from the username, which is a bit naughty but will work in most cases: https://github.com/xwiki-labs/matrix-stfu/blob/master/stfu.js#L25